How Her Parents Influenced Her

I grew up in Los Angeles, one of four girls. My father was a cardiologist. My mother, when I was growing up, was a full-time mom. Very involved with the PTA, nonprofits. I didnโ€™t think there was any difference between girls and boys. I mean, we didnโ€™t have any boys in our family. We could do anything we could imagine. I could throw a perfect spiral. Swish a three-pointer.

My father always said that if he left us money when he died, we didnโ€™t live life. Every other year before he died, we would take mandatory family trips. We chased eclipses all over the world. We would receive a letter in the mail from my father a year and a half in advance telling us on this day we were to be in this airport at this time. We would have airline tickets sent to us, and then be in the Galรกpagos chasing an eclipse together.

After my sisters and I left the house, my mother started working for [California governor] Pete Wilson. In 1992, she created the first conference for [corporate] women in the state. I remember going to that conference and thinking, Iโ€™ve never seen anything like this. I remember a woman standing up and asking a question in front of all these other women: โ€œHow do you still find your identity when youโ€™re no longer working?โ€

I thought to myself, What a vulnerable questionโ€”I donโ€™t want to be that person. I thought that once I had children I was not going to work.

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The Purpose of aย College Degree

Zalis traveled to New York for college because, she says, โ€œYour parents want you to marry a nice Jewish boy, and in Los Angeles, all you know is all the Jewish boys are in New York.โ€ Though she had a sister at Barnard, she started college at New York University. But after realizing that Barnard students could actually be a part of Columbia, she transferred.

ย I was the one who never studied in high school. Youโ€™d never catch me in a library! I was playing tennis with the boys. I never took any classes at Barnard. Inย hindsight I didn’t appreciate the value of being at an all-girls school. I wanted to surround myselfย with diversity. What I loved about school was meeting people and being curious and adventurous. It was definitely not about learning from a textbook. It was about experiencing people. I majored in psychology. My favorite part was how you could get people to do things, to try new things. Because itโ€™s very complicatedโ€”people do not want to try new things. I thought maybe I would be a psychiatrist. Iโ€™m a very good listener and I love people. But I donโ€™t think Iโ€™d be very good at sitting in one place for a long period of time.

Zalis and Patty Kerr, executive director of #SeeHer, before an FQ tour of CES, January 2019. Photo courtesy of the Female Quotient

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The Beginning of anย Accidental Career

Though Zalis didnโ€™t particularly plan on having a careerโ€”she still expected to be a full-time motherโ€”she did want a job upon graduation in 1983. So she interviewed with a company called Video Storyboards that tested advertising animatics with shoppers in malls. Hired on the spot, Zalis loved the workโ€”even though the pay was minimal for her and the three other women who worked for the firmโ€™s male owner.

I remember asking him one time how much money the firm made, because there was no overheadโ€”we had this tiny little office and it was him and four girls, and I was making $24,000 a year. And I think he told me $3 million. And so if all the women and I were getting paid all in like $200,000, he was making about $2 million a year. But I never thought about itโ€”I didnโ€™t care. I wasnโ€™t thinking about savings, the future. I was just thinking about paying my rent in New York and dating and having a good time.

Learning That Thereโ€™s No Such Thing as Trying

After Zalis had been at Video Storyboards for about six years, a headhunter called and asked her to interview at a company called Applied Science International Market Research, better known as ASI. She met with CEO and president Gerry Lukeman, a leading figure in the still relatively small market-research industry. In the interview, Lukeman asked her to watch two spots for Dominoโ€™s Pizza and tell him which one consumers liked more. โ€œI said, โ€˜Oh, this one,โ€™โ€ says Zalis, and told him why. โ€œAnd he said, โ€˜Youโ€™re hired.โ€™โ€ Lukeman would become her mentor and close friend.

ย Gerry was the most nurturing, empathetic CEO that Iโ€™ve ever met. He ran the company like he ran his family. He always had a sofa in his office, to encourage conversation. He taught me you either do something or you donโ€™t, thereโ€™s no such thing as trying. Once he took a pen and threw it on the floor and said, โ€œTry to pick it up. You either pick it up, or you donโ€™t.โ€

When Zalis Helped Create Online Advertising

Zalis worked in business development for ASI; she loved building long-term relationships with clients and came to feel that she did it differently than her male coworkers. โ€œI didnโ€™t do deals,โ€ she says. โ€œI created relationships.โ€ In the early 1990s, she sensed that things in the marketing world were about to change profoundly. In the internetโ€™s infancy, companies that wanted to promote their products werenโ€™t placing ads because internet advertising as we now know it didnโ€™t really exist. Instead, they simply built their own websites. Zalisโ€™ epiphany was that marketers should be creating ads to be placed on other companiesโ€™ websites. โ€œWhich is when,โ€ she says, โ€œwe started creating split screens and banners and interstitials.โ€ One problem? There were no industry standards defining the adsโ€™ specifications, as there were for TV. โ€œWe donโ€™t have a 30 [-second spot] on NBC and a 32 on ABC,โ€ Zalis recalls. โ€œWe needed standard units.โ€ So she pulled together a consortium of 10 noncompeting advertisers, including IBM and Levi Strauss, which created a database of online advertisements they then used to devise technical standards. โ€œNo one else was doing it,โ€ Zalis says. โ€œWe pioneered game-changing methodologies.โ€

A Roadblockย Becomes anย Opportunity

The problem was that other colleagues, including her immediate boss at ASI, werenโ€™t showing much support for the project. And that led to an employment review from that boss that changed Zalisโ€™ trajectoryโ€”and consciousness. Today, talking about that 20-year-old review, Zalis actually pulls it out of a file cabinet in her office to read excerpts. Including:

ย โ€œNeed to better judge and recognize what our priorities are and what they arenโ€™t.โ€

ย โ€œNeed to maintain focus.โ€

ย โ€œNeed to appreciate the range and challenges of work done by others.โ€

ย โ€œBe careful of how sure of yourself you are.โ€

ย โ€œCourage of conviction is an appealing quality, but being too stubborn can burn bridges.โ€

ย โ€œTry not to take everything personally.โ€

ย โ€œDonโ€™t make sacrifices that you donโ€™t have to, including in your personal life.โ€

And thatโ€™s when I realized I needed to break the rules and create my own. Because following other peopleโ€™s rules didnโ€™t always work well for me. Why were the men always right?

Zalis leads an FQ tour at CES, January 2019. Photo courtesy of the Female Quotient

How a Badย Review Changed Her Life

The episode pushed Zalis to leave ASI. โ€œThey were trying to keep me in this place,โ€ she says. She aimed to pursue another idea that she had: migrating consumer research from in-person surveys like the ones she had done in malls to internet-based testing. Zalis wanted to build a website to conduct market research, something that seems obvious now but was radical at the time. However it was clear after her review that the men at ASI didnโ€™t see things the same way.

ย When I followed the rulesโ€”I came in early, I stayed late, I was a team playerโ€”I got the shittiest review of my life. And thatโ€™s when I realized I needed to break the rules and create my own. Because following other peopleโ€™s rules didnโ€™t always work well for me. Why were the men always right?

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The Urgency of Risk

So I called this young guy, Trevor Kaufman, who used to do all my website-visibility testing. I said, โ€œI have this great idea to migrate testing from offline to onlineโ€”would you build me a website? I have no money, but the second someone says they want to do this, Iโ€™ll give you a million dollars.โ€ He took that offer and we built the platform in my basement.

My husband and my father each said, โ€œWeโ€™ll give you half a million dollars to start your company.โ€ I was afraid to take their money. My husband was a surgical residentโ€”he had no money. Half a million, that would have been everything of ours. I knew that I would not take risks with my husbandโ€™s and my fatherโ€™s money. I thought I would lose it, and then we would have nothing left.

So I brought it to [market-research company] Nielsen and said, โ€œI have this crazy idea,โ€ and I showed them the prototypeโ€ฆThey said, โ€œWhat do you need?โ€ I said, โ€œA million dollars.โ€ And I handed it to this 21-year-old. Made him a millionaire. And that is how I started online research.

Zalis in her office, January 2019. Photo by Jeremy Bales

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An Increasingย Consciousness

Now married with children and back in Los Angeles, Zalis decided to look for clients in the film business. Her premise: If you could build a site that could handle testing two-and-a-half-minute trailersโ€”this was the internet in 2000, remember, when for most people fast download speeds were still years awayโ€”you could easily test 30-second advertisements. The business, which she called OTX, for Online Testing Exchange, did well, but her partnership with Nielsen did not. โ€œAs it started getting bigger and bigger, all the divisions at Nielsen started fighting over who was going to own this online business,โ€ Zalis says.

So Zalis left in 2000 to bring OTX to a video startup for user-generated content called iFilmโ€”basically, YouTube before YouTube. Again, iFilm struggledโ€”but Zalisโ€™ OTX (now called iFilm OTX) did well, eventually hitting $20 million a year in revenue. After discovering that iFilm was considering allowing pornography on its siteโ€”a no-no for the Fortune 500 firms she worked withโ€”Zalis moved her company to a partnership headed by media entrepreneurs Bob Pittman and Strauss Zelnick. In 2010, she and her partners sold OTX for $80 million to a research company called Ipsos. Zalis agreed to stay for five years. And that led to another pivot point for Zalis: the almost accidental realization that she wanted to do something about gender inequality in business.

While I was at Ipsos, in 2013, I wanted to go to CES, the Consumer Electronics Show. Iโ€™d heard that there were something like 150,000 people there, and fewer than 5 percent were women. Iโ€™d never been to CES, I didnโ€™t know anyone thereโ€ฆWho wants to go to a trade show by themselves?

So I decided to invite four girlfriends. โ€œLetโ€™s go to CES in Vegas together. And if you know other women going, invite them.โ€ Fifty women showed up, and we walked the floor together. And every guyโ€™s head turnedโ€”where did all these women come from? By day two, there were 100 women. By day three, I have the penthouse suite of the Four Seasons and we were all having the best time hanging out together and doing business. And thatโ€™s when the Girlsโ€™ Lounge was born: The place where the minority acts like the majority.

Initially backed by Ipsos, Zalisโ€™ Girlsโ€™ Lounge would be a place for women (though men are welcome) to gather at conferences to network and do business and, really, have a space of their own. The name came from Zalisโ€™ feeling that the business world had always been a boysโ€™ club, and since โ€œwomen never felt comfortable in the boysโ€™ club, weโ€™ll create our own girlsโ€™ lounge.โ€ Now you can find the FQ Loungeโ€”renamed to avoid the word โ€œgirl,โ€ a stumbling block for some, and to emphasize inclusionโ€”at Davos, South by Southwest, the NBA All-Star Game and other high-profile events. At Davos in January, the Lounge hosted panels on topics ranging from โ€œMale Champions of Changeโ€ to โ€œWomen Changing the Trajectory of Distrust in the World Through Tech.โ€

The Imperative of Going Solo

Zalis left Ipsos when her five-year deal expired; she wasnโ€™t confident the company would continue to support the Girlsโ€™ Lounges. โ€œThe men there were like, โ€˜If weโ€™re going to have a girlsโ€™ lounge, we need a man cave,โ€™โ€ she says. She knew sheโ€™d reached a turning point in her life. โ€œIโ€™ve made my money,โ€ she thought. โ€œI donโ€™t want to be in research anymore. The Girlsโ€™ Lounge was very empowering to me.โ€

In 2015 Zalis launched the Female Quotient. โ€œFirst came the intelligence quotientโ€”IQ,โ€ she says. โ€œThen came the emotional quotientโ€”EQ. Now comes the female quotient.โ€ Naturallyโ€”Zalis is a marketer, after allโ€”FQ has a slogan: โ€œWhen you add women to any equation, the equation gets better.โ€ In addition to the FQ Lounges, the Female Quotient consults for companies on โ€œthe practice of equalityโ€โ€”things like closing the wage gap and recruitment. It also has an impact arm, supporting female-centric nonprofits ranging from the Girl Scouts to an organization that builds schools for girls in Rwanda. The company generated about $9 million in revenue in 2018, and Zalis says she had an offer to sell it for $45 million. โ€œIโ€™m not looking to sell,โ€ Zalis explains. โ€œI want to be in the business of equality.